#this fucking screams Ladynoir

[overwhelmed-cactus]

Cat noir be like :

Guys Uncle Rick has served us a new meme format.

[cakemousse]

btw guys i’m fucking winning in life, i’ve just read the first chapter of @literaphobe upcoming fic two virgin losers (aka tvl) and i’ve ascended. so so high. it’s fucking ✨phenomenal✨ not even 5 paragraphs in and i’m already losing my mind and you guys are not prepared for what’s to come omg i literally can’t wait for more and i’m begging her to allow me read all chapters in advance but even if i can’t it’s still fucking amazing ksjdjsjjs MICHELLE PLEASEEEEEE it’s so so good KAJDKSJJDNSJS i’m going feral just thinking about what a ride this will be skhdjsjs

[howtotrainyouragents]

Anyway, finally catching up on ml s5, and

I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE THIS IS HOW ADRIEN FINDS OUT MARINETTE WAS IN LOVE WITH HIM

[galahadwilder]

Marinette and Adrien are dating and they are so, so happy but Marinette can’t help feeling like something is missing. Adrien is the perfect boyfriend, the perfect gentleman, so she feels like something is wrong with her—and then she realizes that what’s missing is Chat Noir.

She’s in love with Chat, always has been, and now that he’s moved on and found a girlfriend and stopped flirting with her she feels like something got carved out of her chest. And yeah they’re still best friends, still partners, but something about their easy camaraderie feels poisoned.

And Adrien simply isn’t Chat. He doesn’t have the same goofy side to him that she’s come to love.

She’s torn. She loves Adrien, she does, but she loves Chat too, and how is she supposed to choose between them? But she knows that if she did have to, she’d choose Chat, and it’s tearing her up inside.

Eventually, she tells Chat everything. How she feels like a monster for it. How she can barely eat because of it. Because she is in love with her boyfriend, she wants to marry him, but she is in love with Chat and she needs him like she needs air to breathe.

She and Adrien end up breaking up because he realizes she’s unhappy with him, even though he can’t figure out why. (Surprisingly, Ladybug’s confession is not part of his decision. He loves Marinette and wants her to be happy, even if it’s not with him.) That night, Ladynoir meet up, and Ladybug confesses to Chat again, and asks him out.

They decide to reveal identities.

About four blocks of Paris get to hear a very loud Ladybug scream of “SON OF A FUCKING BITCH”

(Luckily they both take it very well and they’re back to goo-ily dating each other within the hour, if slightly more goofy and relaxed with each other going forward)

[familyagrestefanblog]

Ladynoir in Bug Noire's design:

I need a break writing other posts so let's talk about a detaile I appreciate so freaking much about Bug Noire’s design:

This entire design SCREAMS how much Marinette wished Chat Noir were with her right now and how much she needed him (which she absolutely did, she fucking LOST.)

Chat Noir is with her as the legs that carry her, the shoulders and arms that support and steady her.

In her eyes while she keeps wearing her normal mask, so that when Monarque looks her in the eyes he not only sees her as Ladybug she's also pircing him with every eye-contact with one of Chat Noir's most distinguishing featurs: his green non-human eyes. And it's noteworthy that here it's of crucial importance that her mask and eyes do NOT combine the two miraculous as the rest of her outfit does. Cause now every time Gabriel looks in her eyes she's making him ackowledge them as seperate individuals.

Marinette is not just standing here as Bug Noire for herself, she's also representing her partner who she lost to Gabriel and wants to get back:

Which - if I may point out - is extremely relevant in this fight because Marinette just saw how badly Gabriel treated Nathalie who then met her end right in front of Marinette because she sacrificed her life and health to help him as Mayura:

Ladybug and Hawkmoth BOTH lost their partners that day but only ONE of them honored hers in this last battle because Marinette ackowledges that she wouldnt have gotten this far without Chat Noir, meanwhile Gabriel in the end basically completely disregarded Nathalie and everything she ever did for him.

But let's continue.

Chat's in her ears that have his green all around on its borders because she most likely can hardly imagine him without his extra ears on his head (Mister Bug being the only rare exception), and then topped it off with a hair style reminding of her Lady Noire hair.

And in the weapons she fought with. Bug Noire fought so much more with Chat's baton than with her own yo-yo which she also colored exclusively in his colors while only changing the footprint color to her red. The yoyo accurately represents Chat's colors (mainly black) while for the baton the main colore should have ben red to represent her suit (but I get why they didnt to that. Not only is she here wearing her suit and red as her main color, it also wouldnt have fit very well overall)

And the weapon with which she hit the butterfly miraculous off of Gabriel was the baton too. The fight choreography took so much care to have Marinette include Chat's baton and cataclysm as much as possible. She didn't just wore both of the miraculous, she fought for the BOTH of them. Using Chat's things so often because thats all she has left of him right now and incorporating him so crucially into her suit design that it's heartbreaking. She literally projected the support Chat gives her onto her suit design because she wished so BADLY that he was by her side right now.

[ilikekidsshows]

I'll never forgive this show for how outright emotionally toxic they made Marinette. She's like an abusive boyfriend who tells his girlfriend to always tell him if something is wrong and then makes everything about herself and tells the gf what to "truly" feel because HE is so "mature and experienced" unlike the gf

Didn't Marinette do exactly that with Shadybug when she dared to say that Marinette has a great life in comparison to her? Marinette outright told her "you're wrong" and acted as if she's kind for invalidating her opinion and feelings because she thinks SHE KNOWS BETTER and doesn't have anything good in her life

Anyone who thinks they know pain thats bigger than Marinette's is "wrong" and Marinette a kind martyr for telling people how to be and what to feel to be "correct like her". I despise how Marinette treated Shadybug, but no one talks about that. Marinette as good as bullied Shadybug into giving in jn shame and do whatever Marinette says is the next right thing for her to do and be to be "better". Marinette should have a restraining order against her, she treats people like playdoo in her hands to validate her hero and victim complex.

That's all Marinette ever does in s4 Ladynoir too. When Chat speaks up about not liking something Ladybug "teaches" him that his feelings and perspective are wrong and petty and that he has to get over it cause she's right and a benevolent goddess and he's just some pathetic cat who needs to be taught how to exist "right" cause she cant ever be truly in the wrong. Didn't she scream in his face in Glaciator 2 as Marinette that HIS feelings don't exist, and it's all about her? That's textbook definition of emotionally abusive. Telling others their feelings and perspective doesn't exist and it's all about you. It's crazy that Marinette is being supported for this by the fandom, I hope her fans aren't in relationships...

Or in Revelation, Marinette decides for the whole class that Chloe doesn't get to have a chance and effort anymore because SHE says so due to HER experience. And the others were made out to be naive backstabbers for not instantly falling in line with Marinette making it her class president speech to make support now conditional on HER opinion of the person. Cause that's not fucked up at all, no no no. Let's hope she's never truly angry with a friend cause she might just decide that they're unworthy of the whole support system she rules "cause she says so" (funny, isn't that what she did to Chat?)

She did not ask anyone WHY they think Chloe still deserve a chance, she just decided that SHE knows better and must teach everyone what to feel and think again.

And then she was pissed when that didn't work.

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It all boils down to the same thing I keep saying: Marinette is always the one whose problems are the most important, and her minor grievances are more important than whether or not other people die. Of course she's going to tell Shadybug she has it just as bad as her, if not worse, just because she doesn't instantly get everything she wants every day of the week and sometimes some ineffectual mean girl says bad things about her. The most popular girl in school with all the local super celebrities as her friends and a loving, well-off family, who's also a superhero with a 100% approval rating sometimes has to be inconvenienced and she isn't constantly macking on her desired boytoy, so she's just suffering so much, it's unbearable for her. We should feel sorry for her.

Marinette is the icon of any dissatisfied little girl with no real problems who's just frustrated at still being a kid with little freedom and takes it out on her friends by giving them the silent treatment because they didn't agree with her over something. Marinette is the fantasy of being the single most special and important person in the universe, where everyone else is little more than an NPC that exists to praise you or serve as a minor obstacle that you can easily overcome in order to feel good about yourself. The thing about this kind of fantasy is that you have to be completely uncritical in order to enjoy it, the instant you start to wonder if perhaps someone else deserves some glory too or if the other characters should get to have priorities outside of the protagonist's wants, the game is lost. That's why Marinette stans only think about her actions in terms of how they can excuse them. It's about enjoying the power fantasy.

A lot of power fantasies get defended with the claim that such protagonists aren't meant to be emulated, that it's purely cathartic. But kids try to emulate everything they see on TV, sometimes even when it's something they “should know” shouldn't be applied in real life. This is why you don't see punches connect in children's cartoons, the impact shot instead gets cut away with a jump cut or replaced with an impact graphic or flash. Kids will see the characters they relate to punch people and it being a good thing, and the next thing you know they'll be punching someone for real as part of a game of make belief. There's a reason kids' power fantasy media usually involves harmless scenarios like your belief in the Easter Bunny and Jack Frost saving the world from the Boogeyman and not the kind of stuff you see in an isekai harem anime or the stuff you'd expect from the villain of a school story.

Marinette constantly treats the people around her as unimportant, and she really does act and talk like she thinks their concerns are nonexistent in comparison to hers. The one time Marinette can be bothered to think about others it's when she has nothing going on first, and even then she just forces her ideas on what others need on them like, you know, a power fantasy isekai protagonist. She also does act as the leader of the friend group. I know she's the class representative, but that doesn't mean she should be giving orders to her friends and telling them what to think, but, as of the retool, that's exactly what she's doing. She's literally the Queen Bee archetype, and it shows in how she gets away with committing a literal crime at school in 'Confrontation'.

I don't think a protagonist for a kids' show should be shown consistently treating the people around her like shit, simply because showing and addressing such a storyline over several seasons takes so much time that it makes it harder to connect cause and effect. It's just a hard lesson to teach in such a format. Kids would see something being shown uncritically/as not that bad for potentially years before the show turns around and says it’s bad, actually. The fact that the narrative doesn't even go for this, but instead expects us to side with Marinette is more annoying, though, than if they’d just been that incompetent. Now the actual point is to be uncritical of Marinette’s self-centeredness.

This is why the target audience for Miraculous being so unclear annoys me so much. Do they expect the audience to see Marinette as a role model or is the audience meant to see that what she's doing is actually bad in real life but to also enjoy it as a fictional fantasy of being the most important, specialest person ever? You can expect the latter kind of more complex thinking from teenagers, who enjoy power fantasies possibly the most out of any demographic, but that means that Miraculous’ target audience jumped from preschoolers to middle schoolers because they decided they’d rather be uncritical of Marinette’s personality flaws. But the biggest part of merchandising for this show is still toys aimed at preteens, and even the toys reflect the new “The New Adventures of Ladybug and Ladybug Alone” approach of the show with the latest, insanely overpriced, Magic Heroez Transformation Surprise toy line being nothing but Marinette with the other characters’ Miraculouses. “If you like any hero other than Marinette, fuck you, you stupid kids!”

[literaphobe]

alternate suggested list of s5 episodes (since none of us can remember them)

wibbly wobbly timey wimey

the akuma hiatus

ladybug (almost) gets doxxed

the heroes of paris really want to breed

Core Four, And The No Good, Very Bad, Terrible Plan They Fully Executed

love square flip!! (limited time)

kwami switcheroo 2.0

Hey, Joan of Arc, It's Me, Ladybug. Would It Be Chill If I Made Out With Chat Noir Or What?

obligatory marichat episode of the season OR glaciator 3 OR oh yay!! oh no. OH YAY!!!!!!!!! oh. no. NOOOOO-

[muffled screaming noises]

monarchbug gets lost in the sauce (bunch of teens with condiment codenames blasted his ass)

hi kagami, how's it going! oh (part 1) OR adrien's musical endeavors OR what does the cow say?

everyone's unlicensed therapist leaves the city

Marinette Dupain-Cheng Should Legally Be Allowed To Kill People

48974872874th CHANCE!

hi kagami, glad to see you're doing better! wait (part 2) OR these classmates have no boundaries

gay rights? gay wrongs? gay rights? gay wrongs?

slay felix!!!! slay!!!!!!!!! yasss drop those beats!!!!!!! also get therapy when ur free!!!! sick red moon bro u arent gonna kill her later right!!!!!!

these pancakes fucking SUCK

[UNRESTRAINED SCREAMING NOISES]

sick fraud girl!! now could u just step into this totally real totally not bugged temporary bathroom-

they made WHO mayor now??

ladynoir Ages Up like the sims, thanks to countless traumatic incidents. more at 8!

yo!! a+ parenting gabe! OR theatre, but they knock you out after the play OR prom, but you're the only one that dressed up

hey guys is it just me or does anyone else have a massive headache and terrifying nightmares that recur every few seconds?

Re-creation (The Final Day - Part 2) <- no yeah sorry i won't even pretend this is quite possibly the most accurate episode title like yeah shit sure was recreated and monarch does not appear to be having any more days!! nice work guys!!!

[bellzsad]

more miraculous headcanons!!

if ladynoir could text, they would stay up all night on their phones and chat noir would keep on sending random cat puns and gifs

marinette plays with chat noir's hair by putting it up in "cute" hairstyles

sometimes when adrien is feeling "rebellious", he stays up until 2am at the latest and just listens to music while reading. he is always afraid about not getting enough sleep and it being obvious in the morning (as nathalie/gabriel wouldn't want him to look bad in photos), so he then ices his face when it's time for him to get ready.

marinette reads every single news headline about ladybug or chat noir, whether its positive or negative, even when alya tells her not to.

tikki and plagg sneak out once a month and debrief on everything, including adrienette. they scream every time the topic comes up.

ladynoir chose a random date to celebrate both their birthdays on every year (because they can't say their real birthdays). chat gives really expensive gifts while ladybug bakes a special treat, because chat loves her baking.

sometimes after patrol ladybug and chat noir just sit at their spot and get into really deep conversations. like they will spill the most heartbreaking and personal shit because they know each other so well but also don't know who the other person is.

chat noir tells ladybug his dad died because he wants to avoid the topic of his dad whenever they talk.

adrienette always rustle each others hair. PLEASE.

ladynoir share a tiktok, tumblr/twitter, and bereal account on their bug/staffphone. everyone ships them in the comments, and ladybug always tells chat she's going to delete them, but never does. they also post the most honest and unfiltered shit on their tumblr/twitters. OH and their bereals are so funny, because they mess it up most of the time and ladybug wants to retake it, but chat noir doesn't care and posts it anyway.

nino used to gel down his hair SO FUCKING MUCH ever since third grade, but when he met alya she told him to stop and thank god she did.

thats it uhhh like for part 3? HAHAHAHA im so funny

-> part 1

[lostinthe--stars]

Why MariChat is the best side of the Love Square (at least in the show)

I’m going to rank and go in depth about my thoughts on each side of the love square. Feel free to disagree with me.

Going from worst to best, we have:

Ladrien

4/10

I don’t like Ladrien. It’s the side of the love square that feels the weirdest, the least authentic. It’s the side of the love square where they’re both at their least genuine, where they’re both blinded by the mask - Adrien loves who he perceives Ladybug to be (super smart, confident, a super heroine), and Ladybug loves who she perceives Adrien to be (the boy who can’t be free, who plays by all the rules).

Do they have some cute moments in the show? Yes, I’ll give you that. But it doesn’t take away how blinded this side of the love square is.

Coming up in third, we have:

LadyNoir

6/10

I feel like I might get destroyed for this, but hear me out.

They work fantastically as partners and friends, but I can’t see them working well as romantic partners (at least in the sense of this side of the square alone). Are they cute? Absolutely. Is it nice to imagine? Sure. Did I scream in the season 4 finale when he said ‘you haven’t lost me’. Fuck. Yes. But, even despite that, I don’t like LadyNoir, but it definitely isn’t the worst. I’m any other show (or in the movie) they could absolutely work and be better, but as we have it in the show, I love them just as friends and partners.

In a close second, we have:

Adrienette

8/10

Is this a controversial opinion? Maybe, who knows.

Of course, Adrienette is the ‘main’ side of the love square, and of course, I love them. They’re cute, I’m so glad they’re together now, buut they have nothing on MariChat.

Plus, the stalking, collection of trash, all the weird behaviour of Marinette kind of dampens things, but once she tones it down it definitely improves things. And, I love it when it flips and Adrien’s the one pining after Marinette, it was cute.

And of course, saving the best for last:

MariChat

10/10

I could go on for hours about why these guys are the best side, but I’ll do my best to condense all my thoughts and feelings.

They’re the complete opposite to Ladrien. They’re at their most genuine together. They’re their most genuine selves, and they aren’t blinded by the image of the other.

They have a wonderful friendship, and the way they can talk and confide in each other is always sweet and beautiful.

The MariChat we got in season 5 was everything and encapsulated everything that makes them so good (aside from the way they then got ruined almost immediately).

Together, they can let go and be completely real with each other, because there’s nothing standing in their way. No image, no expectations, just them, letting everything out and being vulnerable together in a way no other side of the square can, including Adrienette.

This is why, without a doubt, MariChat is the best side.

Thanks for listening

[monpetitchattriste]

God just imagine how angst the reveal can be now. Just imagine ladynoir fighting in the rain and Ladybug slips up and says something that only Marinette would know and Chat figures it out and gets even more upset cause Ladybug is his girlfriend Marinette and has been keeping life changing secrets form him. And then she screams

"I did it because I am fucking love you damn it."

Cause like she has also figure out in that moment Chat is Adrien

Ugh please give me more Ladynoir drama.

[bittersweetresilience]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I HAVE NO MORE SCREENSHOTS BECAUSE I WAS JAW DROPPED AND ALSO CONNECTION DROPPED THREE TIMES BUT HOLY FUCK THE DIARY THE MIRROR THE ACTION THE TOXIGRIFFE THE LADYNOIR SCREAMING

[aglioeolioeaddio]

animation was MESMERIZING

nino and alya were really well done, I love them. loved nino already having a crush on her. individually, I loved how they were such great friends to mari and adrien

every time I saw a cameo from the show, I screamed. "don't be bemused, it's just the news" YEAH!!!

LUKA!!!!!!!! LUKA!!!!!!!!! LUKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

I'm so sad she didn't say "miraculous ladybug!" when fixing paris

"Chloe, enough. The adults are talking. Why don't you go fix your hair? It looks like a rat's nest" OHHHHH SHE IS EVERYTHING TO ME

adagio for strings playing in that scene was fucking insane

careless whisper as cat noir fell in love was fucking INSANE

do kids need fart jokes in the year of our lord 2023. has it ever been funny

the cataclysm was really well done. I felt adrichat's shock and fear of his own power (and maribug beautifully fixing paris after that was unintentionally so funny. he's really the Rogue to her Professor X)

love how messy ladynoir got, just like the show

I think adrichat and maribug were really well portrayed/adapted. though marinette revealing her identity was......... hm. I get it. but. hm

gabriel went from this guy to this girl so quick:

gabriel you fuck.... you had me believing..... I came here with an open heart..... bitch

I... didn't like the songs much 👉‍👈‍ I would say I vibed the most with the villain song, but yeah.... I wish they were each more distinctive, that each character had a signature style, and the duets combined both

adrien saying he hadn't smiled and meant it for such a long time, nooooo 😭😭😭😭 SON I HAVE A PEN, LET ME SIGN THE ADOPTION PAPERS

adrien standing up to cringefail gabriel !!!!!!!

loved their portrayal of sabrina

loved the progression of villains, loved them bringing the mime back, loved the saving paris montage in the middle of the movie

loved marinette growing in confidence, and loved how they showed her anxiety in the beginning

the fair festival chaos got me GOOD I was PUMPED

when I realized marinette was singing on top of ladybug spots !!!!

adrien's transformation ate

this didn't happen too often, but some shots kind of felt like they dragged? tikki would ask something, and instead of going to marinette, we stared at tikki for like 5 seconds after that 😅

"he's not my-- I MEAN, her boyfriend" babygirl..........

them cutting to "THE END" like THAT. BRILLIANT. BUT WHOSE IDEA WAS IT. I JUST WANNA TALK

marinette carefully listening to adrien talk about his mother might be the most important scene of the movie for me

[most-canon-non-canon-ship-poll]

i fucking hate them

Why Marichat/Ladynoir/Adrienette/Love Square/Etc is shit - a submission-based essay, part 2/2

Whatever the fuck it's called - a canon (endgame?) het ship from the Miraculous Ladybug fandom between Marinette (Ladybug) Dupain-Chang and Adrien (Chat Noir) Agreste

The narrative puts a lot of comparisons between her feelings toward Adrien and Adrien's Supervillain father's feelings toward Adrien's (presumably dead) mother, without ever really calling attention to the fact that marinette's kind of descending into unhealthy areas. Much like Adrien's entitlement to Ladybug, Marinette's obsession is never called out as anything other than to either point and laugh at or coo over how 'devoted' it is. Also all of those words i gave you up top about marinette being overworked with too much responcibility on her back were only about 5% of episodes 10% are friend drama, and the other 85% have something to do with Adrien or Chat Noir in a significant way in marinette's plot. this show couldn't pass the bechdel test ONCE. Not to mention that literally everyone except for the 'mean cruel bullies that only want Adrien for themselves' all SUPER TOTALLY SHIP THEM YOU GUYS. At one point a normal kid also wanted to date adrien but when she broke up with him she immediately turned to marinette and said 'hes perf for u tho sweetie' literally at one point in a special two new characters are introduced and spend 90% of their time on screen trying to get them together, not for some sort of 'oh we already knew marinette or adrien and we want them together bc they'll be happy' no literally these two complete strangers look at these two complete strangers and go 'Oh those two are MEANT TO BEEEE' and go out of their way to matchmake alongside their friends. Speaking of their friends a lot of Marinette's schemes to woo Adrien aren't even her own, they're mostly orchestrated by her friend group to where Marinette is a reluctant at best patron of. (except for when she makes wooing plans on her own then her friends think it's annoying and that they have better things to do point and laugh at the cringe please) at two separate points the show goes out of its way to be like 'if you two get together rn the whole world is doomed btw' one of which it's implied to have pretty seriously traumatized marinette btw, but please keep pointing and laughing at her venting to what she believes to be a wax replica of Adrien and nerely kissing him only to reveal it was Actual adrien that whole time pretending to be a wax statue for... idk to mess with marinette? she clearly thought she was alone and was spinning her private thoughts and he doesn't even apologize for what was technically an innocent prank that went way too far too quick But never mind all that never mind all that because they had enough 'cute' scenes in the first two seasons that the fans at this point are so thoroughly emotionally invested that they scream about it anyway no matter how it's going to get. #niceguy that unironically says m'lady and stalker with a stutter are MEANT TO BEEEEEEEE and if you even imply otherwise on a twitter post the literal showrunner will subtweet you calling you an idiot that doesn't understand the nuances of his perfect flawless never bad ever ever ever show.

[howtotrainyouragents]

Agent H's Movie Reactions

Ladybug and Cat Noir the Movie

A reimagining of how Ladybug and Chat Noir, and their secret identities Marinette and Adrien, met, fell in love, and saved the world

-I was trying so hard to make this a non-comparison reaction and judge it on it's own basis, but there's just too little in the actual movie and too much to actually say so here we go lol

-Truly I think the weakest part of this movie is just the script. The dialogue is so generic, it's almost soulless. It has to directly say what the characters feel at all times and has to give the most basic children's movie messages as the answer. For ex, that scene where she meets Tikki, and Tikki just speedruns the explanations is so bad bc like, the reveal of the power is an important part of any superhero story, and them speedrunning it is like "lol, we don't care, you know the deal, let's just move past it" which is bad for immersing yourself in the story

-Marinette is so generic here, it was annoying to me. And she keeps talking about her dreams and fears but what are your dreams and fears?? All she is just timid and awkward here (which makes sense why people are goo gah over this version)

-Personally, I don't like the idea that your old self is bad and you have to get rid of it but that's just me

-Marinette wears a tank top underneath the jacket??? she’s just like me fr

-That poll going around that was like, What was the message of the movie? I thought that was a joke and there was obviously a correct answer. But oh no. They genuinely just changed the message of the movie like every twenty minutes

-What was the point of making the Ladybug and Cat rivals if Ladynoir immediately solve working together like the second time they meet. And what does the "stronger together" mean, like was it making their superpowers literally stronger or was it just teamwork is better?

-Everyone just felt mean to each other? Like Adrienette/Ladynoir, but also like Marinette wouldn't be so mean to her dad? And Alya teasing her about being friendless? And Chat Noir could be seen as joking around but they don't give that impression enough, so he comes off as kind of just a jerk.

-Chat Noir is adorable until he speaks. I love that little arms-flailing run from the gargoyle in the church

-Also I need that dialogue scene of "I have nine lives, razor-sharp sense, etc." to be like a meme picture set please

-HE HAS LITTLE GLITTER ON HIS MASK :(((

-Yeah, I have no idea why Marinette likes Adrien other than he's hot when they first meet. (And I have no idea what his deal is. Why was he sitting lonely in the library? How does he know Chloe? How does he know Nino and no one else? No explanations!!)

I have no idea why Chat Noir likes Ladybug other than she saved his life. Like, okay, and? This movie seems to think that the only good acts is saving someone from danger, and all the million good tiny acts that the characters do in the show that fundamentally are a part of who they are isn't important

-Some of the Ladynoir banter was a little more banter-is-cool-right-right? than characters-actually-talking-and-bantering

-That being said, I AM NOT IMMUNE TO LADYNOIR

-The animation is gorgeous HOLY FUCK. I could watch these scenes all day. And I don't really mind, with some exceptions (ALYA. MARINETTE'S DAD), the character designs

-I did scream at seeing Luka. But upon a closer look, wtf did they do to him

-I liked Chloe's design in the promos, but I don't actually like it that much here, her hair is too stringy

-*Me cradling show!Plagg and whispering* "Who did this to you? Who hurt you like this? I will kill them all for you." (No, but seriously, No Plagg's galaxy design? The fart jokes? The not-caring-about Adrien?)

-I can't believe they've made me say this, but I think I prefer Hawkmoth's show design? His face is a little too expressive here (esp when Gabriel's really isn't), and it weirds me out

-I do think it's cute to have all the classmates and side character cameos

-There was some shots that just felt confusing, like I'm not sure where they wanted my focus to be

-Some of the back and forth scenes could've been edited a little sharper

-Hahaha, I like that they unnecessarily amped up the yoyo design

-If they were really doing such big-budget animation, they should've gone for it and given the characters new outfits and all each day. I'd pay for it

-I was THIS close to just skipping all the songs. And honestly I should've, they (except maybe the Ladynoir falling in love song?) didn't add anything to the story.

-I always love Lou singing for Marinette, but the contrast between Cristina's speaking and Lou's singing is SO BAD WHO APPROVED THIS

-Girl, you can't have a self-realization song in the middle of a fair on fire

-This movie owes me money for making me watch Gabriel sing. It was a fun song, but you owe me reparations

-"A she-ro!" Boooo! Negative points for trying too hard! Haha, Also Ladybug literally wasn't doing anything atm when Alya said that

-Nino having a crush on Alya is so cute

-Adrien sad boi hours

-“Evil Miraculous” Nooroo doesn’t deserve this slander :(

-Master Fu was, uh, a lot

-Also, they keep harping on, You have to save the world!! (Oh my goodness why was Tikki so serious) Which like makes me appreciate how the show smartly keeps it's stakes reasonable and contained to Paris bc that's such an easy pitfall for superhero genres to fall into

-Ladybug and Chat Noir didn’t even save the day??

-Sheesh, and you guys were mad thinking season 5 finale gave Gabriel a redemption (which it didn't)??

-YES YOU ARE RIGHT ADRIEN WOULD CRY LEARNING MARINETTE IS LADYBUG

-WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU HAVE THIS ENTIRE FUCKING FANFIC MOVIE AND THEY DON'T EVEN KISS

-Look, Adrien deserves to tell his dad off, but this Adrien doesn't because it doesn't feel built up or paid off at all

-Dude. The reveal of Emilie doesn’t mean anything in this version of the story

-People who love the show will hate the movie and people who hate the show will love the movie

[beezonia]

Mate I just cried watching the miraculous movie and I have so much to say

I won’t say my thoughts and go into deep shit just yet in case people still haven’t had a chance to watch it yet

but I’m gonna share some pics

So yeah don’t look if you haven’t watched

1. LOOK AT THEM

ALIX AND NINO ARE BROS FOR SURE

My faves are adorable

2. Chat noir my dramatic child

Theatre kid for fucking sure

3. CHAT FUCKING NOIR YOU SAP

I screamed at this so hard and loud, he was willing to do anything for her and I’m sobbing ladynoir my beloveds

LADYNOIR MY BELOVEDS PT 2

LOOK AT THEM IM CRYING SO HARD RN

Yes I will be screaming into the void in the days coming because analysis is my thing so pls look out for that shit.

[carpetbug]

tell me ab your bug and cat playlist!!!! (this is my main I’m zodoods dhsjvdsjj)

HI ZO 💕!! THANK U FOR INDULGING MY SILLY LITTLE SONG LISTS! i’ll give you a song or two from a couple <3

Chat Noir

Break (Alex G) - oh my god it just screams his sacrificial tendencies paired with his love for ladybug. obsessed with this song for him. I also see these sort of reflections? of other sides of him in this song? “I could disappear, if this is what makes you feel so real” cat walker out the fucking wazoo hello! “In my head I see bright lights… I think I’m feeling it now just like you did” “And I’ll break for you baby cause you make it feel so good” CHAT BLANC HELLOOOOOO!! anyways i’m super normal about this song and totally don’t have any plans to animate anything to this 👁️

Ladybug

happy news for sadness (Car Seat Headrest) - i see this song fitting both LB and mari! the obvious line being “You can never tell the truth but you can tell something that sounds like it” relating to how deeply she values honesty and truth, but ends up having to lie and hide things from almost all the people in her life. “Everytime I think about love, I think about me thinking about you … Everytime I think about love, I think about you thinking about me” sorry this is just so fucking ladynoir? thinking about you as in thinking about adrien, this boy i’ve devoted myself to loving, but when i think about love I also think about you, chat noir, thinking about me, ladybug, the girl you’re so openly in love with. how can those both be love when they’re so different? how can they both be the truth? are they even?

Marinette

Gambling Addiction (Leanna Firestone) - i’m so insane bonkers crazy for this song ITS SO GOOD GO LISTEN TO ALL OF LEANNAS MUSIC anyways. how marinette falls quite literally head over heels when she’s in love! but she ultimately feels like she’s always playing a losing game! I also love the whole concept of marinette being both luck as ladybug and unlucky as herself with always saying the wrong thing, falling over, etc. “I wanna be pulling lucky numbers and praying to lucky stars, finding four leaf clovers and counting all my cards but i’m walking under ladders, seeing black cats, spilling table salt, and stepping on every crack” “so i’m crossing all my fingers, i’m pressing all my luck cause I know misfortune just won’t be enough to keep me from betting it all on love again”

Adrien

TV (Alex G) - adrien’s relationship with his parents! especially with emelie just sort of being gone? and he never gets to have that closure? ESPECIALLY WITH HER BEING AN ACTRESS?? AND GABRIEL NOT LETTING ADRIEN WATCH HER ROLES?? “I get feelings from the TV, they can’t hurt me, they don’t know me” “He gets lonely, he forgets me and he bought us a TV cause you don’t come around anymore” IDK GUYS I CANT PUT IT INTO FUNCTIONAL WORDS BUT DO U SEE THE VISION??

Chat Blanc

The Wolf (Fever Ray) - i love this song for chat blanc so much! (here is a drawing i did with lyrics from it!) I just am so obsessed with the vibe and tone, how deep and echoey it is, but with the intermittent hollers! it gives a very specific feeling, I love it. “And it’s poison in his blood. Big fire, big burn, into the ashes and no return” just like a perfect reference to everyone being turned into literal ash! it works so well with the chaotic, destructive nature of blanc.

Shadybug

DICTATOR (REI AMI) - i think the general vibe of the song is so fitting for her! especially the really direct transition to a much softer and emotional tune/lyrics! RAAAA it’s just so telling of how she makes shadybug into this terrifying powerful figure that can and will hurt anyone in her way when she’s just marinette, this lonely teenager with one too many problems and a shitty/dangerous coping mechanism! “I am not your queen, i’m your dictator. bend the fucking knee, yeah bitch, that was an order! what you say to me, huh? bitch speak louder! you know i reign supreme” it’s just screams shadybug to me. also hehehehe reign supreme get it

Adrinette

Romeo & Juliet (Peter McPoland) - okay imma be so fr this one makes me feel a little too silly in the heart so i unfortunately do not have the words to explain but please imagine and chew on these lyrics “I’d say “oh I love you” to my Juliet, if you only knew, i’d kill for you, i am for you, i am just who you need me to be” “i hope you mean it when you say that I am yours and you are mine”

I Love You Too (Peter McPoland) - i’m a sucker for this man’s music he makes some bangers but yeah this song it just screams adrinette to me. especially post season five, seeing them get to explore starting a relationship together and navigate their own love!! also just really shows how devoted adrien is to loving marinette, how he holds her to no expectations, values her comfort and happiness above all else during their interactions LIKE GOD HE LOVES HER SO MUCH HES WILLING TO SIT AND WAIT AND LOVE HER IN SILENCE UNTIL SHES READY FOR IT TO BE AS LOUD AS IT FEELS!! IDK!! “i love you too, too much to say” “i love your hands held close to mine, the way that our fingers all intertwine”

Ladynoir

Best Song Ever (One Direction) - guys. do i even have to explain. it is so chat flirting with ladybug. it is so entirely season one ladynoir. “maybe it’s the way she walked straight into my heart and stole it” “I said “can i take you home with me?” she said “never in your wildest dreams””

Shameless (Camila Cabello) - some fun ladynoir reveal brain food! lb getting fed up with identities clogging her emotions and deciding to throw it aside and let chat make the decision himself “it’s been a secret for the longest time” “now that you have me, do you want me still?”

Marichat

HandClap (Fitz and The Tantrums) - ok it’s honestly just the part “Every night when the stars come out, am I the only living soul around? Need to believe you could hold me down cause I’m in need of something good right now” BUT HEAR ME OUT!! Marinette and Chat seeking each other out when they need comfort, someone to vent to. Finding each other, making this connection and this safe space with so much warmth and care between them that it grows from just mutual support to adoration. I need something good right now, I need you.

Vampire Empire (Big Thief) - tbh i’m not like 100% sure what about this song is so entirely marichat to me but. it is. More angsty, it makes me think of marinette and chat trying to foster a romance between them but it just tasting… stale? like a dead plant drowning from being overwatered. “the milk has just expired, all the leaves are dead. I’m not quiet, you’ve been quiet, just receiving what you said.” They do want each other, and there’s such intense love between them, but it just always feels like they’re going about it the wrong way. “Where you can’t seem to hold me, can’t seem to let me go, so I can’t find surrender, and I can’t keep control”

Ladrien

Sports (Beach Bunny) - Ladybug getting to explore Adrien’s hobbies with him as they get close! spending her time with him, learning any new skill he’s willing to teach just to make him happy “if you feel lonely, I could be lonely with you! Tell me baby, why do you seem so blue?” but eventually kind of getting tired of playing these games around their feelings and just wanting to be with him outside of these activities “I’m tired of waiting, I was never good at sports. Save the games for the girls on the tennis courts”

We’ll Never Have Sex (Leith Ross) - THE SOFTNESS!! THE GENTLENESS!! THE CARE AND COMPASSION AND LOVE AND SIMPLICTY! “If I said you could never touch me, you’d come over and say I looked lovely” ITS JUST SO THEM!! Adrien respecting these boundaries, listening to his lady, caring for and loving her regardless of what form it comes in. “Oh you kissed me, just to kiss me, not to make me cry. It’s was simple, you are sweetness, let’s just sit a while”